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general for the civil rights division right now. he spent a lot of time in his career focusing on consumer rights and protection as well. if he is confirmed, the process that takes place after the official no announcement he will be only latino in the president's cabinet. they need to get americans back to work as labor secretary and what kind of role considering his background mr. perez might play in immigration reform and what type of employment policies could be put in place if there is some overarching immigration reform. we'll keep you posted on the announcement. as we hear more we'll bring that to you. jon: it was ten years ago that operation iraqi freedom launched. our own rick leventhal was embedded with the troops who fired the first historic shots. he will be here with a former commander of that battalion to reflect on the decade past. >>> were we all wrong about the wright brothers? why an aviation historian says they were not the first men to fly. who was? we'll talk to him next. hey, our salads. [ bop ] [ bop ] [ bop ] you can do that all you want, i don't like v8 juice. [ mal
. great to have you here. >> welcome. uma: how do you successful will the civil rights groups will be when they take aim at what governor brewer has done? >> i think they're going to be successful. i think the federal law is what controls here, but i understand where the governor's coming from. her state is the one that suffers the most apparently by people coming here illegally. she needs to stand up. she needs to make a statement. she needs to say, we're not going to tolerate this, even if she will wind up losing in the federal court system. even if the federal judges say, no, no, this is federal issue. this isn't a state issue. there are certain issues, governor, you're in charge of but there are other issues where the president is in charge. uma: why isn't this seen as state issue particularly the time it will affect the citizens of that state? >> there is something called the supremacy clause. this is recalcitrant act by jan brewer. she is saying i will ignore president obama's executive order because i don't think it is federally authorized. yet, the state policy itself is up consist
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